Joe McClane: “John Paul II, albeit being a good man, decided to let the snakes stay in grass and he basically had a choice to make. Do I pastor the world or do I manage the Curia? I don’t want to manage the Curia. I’m going to pastor the world. I mean this was George Weigel.”
Father Murr: “As far as pastoring the world, excuse me but I mean, I have a lot of respect for him because I think that he believed that he was doing was truly what was he called to be doing, okay? Right or wrong, he believed that and he followed through on that. However, I was in Rome at the time and I saw that while the cat is away the mice will play. And they loved it every time he announced that he was going to take another trip. They absolutely loved it. A 104 trips he made and each one of those trips took months of preparation. He had to learn the names of all of the bishops, all of the diocese, the different institutions, the languages. He had to learn his speeches in this language and that language. It was great preparation. He had people coming in to teach him to read Japanese, to read this dialect, African dialect. These trips were all consuming and while he was planning trips, and hoping to convert the world to Christ, and I really believe that he believed that. I think that it didn’t work. I said that if anything else, I told Carlo Gagnon one time, instead of anything else he may have got them as far as Saint Peter’s square but they haven’t entered the basilica, those people that he went out fishing for. They’re not in yet. They’re not in. Anyway, I think he missed a real opportunity. He should have stayed home and done some house cleaning. This is what I’m trying to say and he did not. But he did not and it got out of control and out of his control.”
Fr. Charles Murr on the infiltration of Freemasonry in the Roman Curia – Pope John Paul II
Joe McClane: “John Paul II, albeit being a good man, decided to let the snakes stay in grass and he basically had a choice to make. Do I pastor the world or do I manage the Curia? I don’t want to manage the Curia. I’m going to pastor the world. I mean this was George Weigel.”
Father Murr: “As far as pastoring the world, excuse me but I mean, I have a lot of respect for him because I think that he believed that he was doing was truly what was he called to be doing, okay? Right or wrong, he believed that and he followed through on that. However, I was in Rome at the time and I saw that while the cat is away the mice will play. And they loved it every time he announced that he was going to take another trip. They absolutely loved it. A 104 trips he made and each one of those trips took months of preparation. He had to learn the names of all of the bishops, all of the diocese, the different institutions, the languages. He had to learn his speeches in this language and that language. It was great preparation. He had people coming in to teach him to read Japanese, to read this dialect, African dialect. These trips were all consuming and while he was planning trips, and hoping to convert the world to Christ, and I really believe that he believed that. I think that it didn’t work. I said that if anything else, I told Carlo Gagnon one time, instead of anything else he may have got them as far as Saint Peter’s square but they haven’t entered the basilica, those people that he went out fishing for. They’re not in yet. They’re not in. Anyway, I think he missed a real opportunity. He should have stayed home and done some house cleaning. This is what I’m trying to say and he did not. But he did not and it got out of control and out of his control.”